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		<title>By: Trailblazing Web Team Moves On&#160;&#124;&#160;Digital Journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-1235</link>
		<dc:creator>Trailblazing Web Team Moves On&#160;&#124;&#160;Digital Journalism</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] business, your website goes down. The answer, instead, is open source,&#8221; wrote Bachhuber in a blog post from fall, 2008. Bachhuber set his sights on creating a &#8220;better technological ecosystem for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CoPress Lands on Poynter, Becomes a Power-Player &#171; College Media Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-601</link>
		<dc:creator>CoPress Lands on Poynter, Becomes a Power-Player &#171; College Media Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bachhuber on bigger picture: &#8220;Rather than outsourcing the heavy-lifting to College Publisher, student newspapers need to allocate resources internally to running and developing their own platform. This can seem somewhat paradoxical, adding to your staff when you&#8217;re losing more and more revenue, but it is a necessity for survival. The future isn&#8217;t all that bleak, we&#8217;re just in a time of transition.&#8221; Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Story Idea: Student Newspaper Presents Editorial as Facebook News FeedStudent Newspaper Has Scoop on Chicago Racism IncidentStudent Journalist Spotlight: Bryan J. Roy, University of ArizonaHow College Students Spend Time Online [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bachhuber on bigger picture: &#8220;Rather than outsourcing the heavy-lifting to College Publisher, student newspapers need to allocate resources internally to running and developing their own platform. This can seem somewhat paradoxical, adding to your staff when you&#8217;re losing more and more revenue, but it is a necessity for survival. The future isn&#8217;t all that bleak, we&#8217;re just in a time of transition.&#8221; Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Story Idea: Student Newspaper Presents Editorial as Facebook News FeedStudent Newspaper Has Scoop on Chicago Racism IncidentStudent Journalist Spotlight: Bryan J. Roy, University of ArizonaHow College Students Spend Time Online [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 5 things College Publisher never told you &#8211; Innovation in College Media</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>5 things College Publisher never told you &#8211; Innovation in College Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] days, I&#8217;ve heard a lot of bad talk about College Publisher (College Media Network). Although the platform is less than ideal, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Leis</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Leis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 00:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CBS/Viacom&#039;s goal was to capture the youth market in the online space.  Something that they had struggled to do for a long time in the television space.  That meant buying up college news properties.  College Sports (CSTV) and College News (College Publisher, UWire).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CBS/Viacom&#8217;s goal was to capture the youth market in the online space.  Something that they had struggled to do for a long time in the television space.  That meant buying up college news properties.  College Sports (CSTV) and College News (College Publisher, UWire).</p>
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		<title>By: Why I&#8217;m leaving - Daniel Bachhuber</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Why I&#8217;m leaving - Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 18:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] get the Daily Emerald off of College Publisher. College Publisher, for those who are unaware, is a proprietary, locked, and nearly obsolete content management system (CMS). In my opinion, the first step student newspapers must take to survive in this &#8220;digital [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] get the Daily Emerald off of College Publisher. College Publisher, for those who are unaware, is a proprietary, locked, and nearly obsolete content management system (CMS). In my opinion, the first step student newspapers must take to survive in this &#8220;digital [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Questions from the updated KNC08 application - CoPress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Questions from the updated KNC08 application - CoPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] do I ever agree with you. As I&#8217;ve written before and before, &#8220;hackability&#8221; is critical. Student news organizations need to be working on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#8220;We&#8217;re trying to fix the &#8216;CMS Problem&#8217;&#8221; &#171; College Media Matters</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-59</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;We&#8217;re trying to fix the &#8216;CMS Problem&#8217;&#8221; &#171; College Media Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be using CMN.  You will know this because all the papers&#8217; sites look basically the same.)  According to CoPress and its supporters, the CMS of CMN is &#8220;too restrictive, poorly developed, and proprietary, locking innovative [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be using CMN.  You will know this because all the papers&#8217; sites look basically the same.)  According to CoPress and its supporters, the CMS of CMN is &#8220;too restrictive, poorly developed, and proprietary, locking innovative [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Introducing CoPress - Daniel Bachhuber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Introducing CoPress - Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 06:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the rather positive outcomes of my case against College Publisher from a few weeks back has been the formation of a diverse group of people around a new project to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CoPress: Changing college journalism &#124; Jared Silfies</title>
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		<dc:creator>CoPress: Changing college journalism &#124; Jared Silfies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] keep student publications from having the freedom to innovate because they usually end up with a CMS that is restrictive. There&#8217;s a need to provide student publications with the option to manage their content [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The plot thickens - Daniel Bachhuber</title>
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		<dc:creator>The plot thickens - Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] my argument against College Publisher, and for an open source coalition of student newspapers, Brad Arendt presents several good points [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Murley</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Murley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a CMS problem, frankly, it&#039;s a hosting problem. Too much discussion and, quite frankly, reinventing the wheel is spent focusing on developing a content management system when there are several good CMS&#039;s out there. What it really boils down to is the hosting. Many schools use CP not because it&#039;s the best solution but because it&#039;s basically a turn-key hosting solution.

They don&#039;t have the resources to devote to dedicated staff to maintain server space, upgrade and patch software, and those types of things. Relying on students is an iffy proposition, since they graduate and your next computer geek may not be as well versed.

Realize we&#039;re talking about hundreds of small to mid-sized college media outlets who may have one adviser and a handful of students putting out their paper. The ONLY solution that would meet the hosting requirement and be equitable to all the parties involved is a non-profit cooperative that would be paid for by membership dues from large and small media groups based on the amount of traffic/bandwidth they use.

Unless and until that happens, these types of issues will continue to arise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a CMS problem, frankly, it&#8217;s a hosting problem. Too much discussion and, quite frankly, reinventing the wheel is spent focusing on developing a content management system when there are several good CMS&#8217;s out there. What it really boils down to is the hosting. Many schools use CP not because it&#8217;s the best solution but because it&#8217;s basically a turn-key hosting solution.</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t have the resources to devote to dedicated staff to maintain server space, upgrade and patch software, and those types of things. Relying on students is an iffy proposition, since they graduate and your next computer geek may not be as well versed.</p>
<p>Realize we&#8217;re talking about hundreds of small to mid-sized college media outlets who may have one adviser and a handful of students putting out their paper. The ONLY solution that would meet the hosting requirement and be equitable to all the parties involved is a non-profit cooperative that would be paid for by membership dues from large and small media groups based on the amount of traffic/bandwidth they use.</p>
<p>Unless and until that happens, these types of issues will continue to arise.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Arendt</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Arendt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 08:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to come off as a CP apologist but really think it is easy to bash CP with out looking at the full picture. So if you don&#039;t mind Dan, I would like to present a view from a school who has hosted their own and used Campus Engine, New Digital Group and College Publisher:

&lt;blockquote&gt;In the school news industry, College Publisher, now branded as the College Media Network, desperately needs a competitor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would say, and so do you, they have plenty of competition. Want to pay for your CMS, use Ellington or get your own instance of Polopoly or other &quot;pay for use&quot; CMS systems. Need a free version? As you point out:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...my work involves researching mature platforms already in the ecosystem, such as Wordpress, Drupal, and Django,...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These are all free systems. Paid, free or even with the semi-free/semi-pay model of CP there IS competition. The problem as I see it, there isn&#039;t a one do-it-all-like-media-wants-it system. Perhaps that is the problem - we are looking for a swiss army knife CMS but given the rapid changes in technology and media in two years we will need a new one! Maybe the answer isn&#039;t an all-in-one system?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Most, too, are held captive to this partnership because there isn’t the motivation, manpower, or vision for more innovative options.
Should any independent student newspaper want in a part of this?  No.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, not exactly. Let&#039;s be honest, what is right for you or the ODE may not be right for any other student newspaper. More importantly, it may be right for the ODE or some other college newspaper right now but what about after some one like you (you come across as a well informed, active and excited student) graduates? Graduating seniors is a problem for more than just football programs! Lose a great programmer or just interested student and your site can stagnate in one year as technology changes around you.

Even you pointed out:

&lt;blockquote&gt;It offers under-staffed and under-funded newsrooms an easy way to get their content online at a price that can’t be beat.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And there is the attraction for many college newspapers and some students who aren&#039;t more forward thinking like you. Even for those who are more forward thinking, things like budget cuts (ours for example was cut 25% this year) can be limiting (and I&#039;m not talking ad revenue alone). Problem we experienced wasn&#039;t convincing students to do more, it was convincing administrators and student government why a college newspaper &lt;em&gt;should&lt;/em&gt; be more than just a printed product.

You do make a very good point:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...student newspapers need to allocate resources internally to running and developing their own platform.  This can seem somewhat paradoxical, adding to your staff when you’re losing more and more revenue, but it is a necessity for survival.  The future isn’t all that bleak, we’re just in a time of transition.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Give an Amen to that! We do need to be allocating more resources, no question, but this presents some interesting economic issues as well. How do college newspapers fund such investments? College newspapers largely rely on either free or cheap labor. Minimum wage increases, rising food, transportation and general living costs are all making it more difficult to recruit, retain and compete with the other bigger money backed media outlets (who seem to like college students because they aren&#039;t afraid of the term blog or podcast) not to mention typical college jobs like hostess or barrista. This problem requires more than a CMS for a solution such as re-tooling of internship programs, training programs, pay adjustments, finding new revenue opportunities, using student citizen journalism and just trying new things. A problem which was neither created nor can be solved by CP, Drupal or any other competitor.

You go on to mention:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Part of the innovation that has to happen, I would like to add, is how you manage, display, and distribute your content online.  For student newspapers, the solution isn’t College Publisher.  It’s too restrictive, poorly developed, and proprietary, locking innovative students to a platform that limits creativity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are some rather innovative and creative things which the CP4.0 system &lt;em&gt;does &lt;/em&gt;offer. I would not say it limits creativity, rather it is the students you have on staff who know what to do with the tools that limits your creativity more than CP4.0. The Daily Pennsylvanian has done some very creative stuff in the LAMP environment, which is open source. The Daily Tar Heel has also figured out an interesting work around for blogs, granted done via WordPress but the 4.0 system and the students figured out how to &quot;fit&quot; it in. More importantly, the creativity of &lt;em&gt;any &lt;/em&gt;system is likely to be more limited by the people you have on staff who know how to use and program the features, than the system itself.

&lt;blockquote&gt;... page load times are atrocious because of far too much Javascript, and if they go out of business, your website goes down.  The answer, instead, is open source.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Page load times certainly can be an issue with any system. The Javascript implementation in one system might be slower where another is it faster so that is something to be aware of which ever system you choose. Open source though has nothing to do with &quot;fixing&quot; any Javascript issue. Network bottle necks also can affect your traffic/page load times. If I were to host arbiteronline on our internal server our load times would be very slow due to the bottle neck in our old campus building. The University won&#039;t host it on their servers and moving the site off campus has money and its own bottle neck issues. Case in point, Va. Tech. Shortly after the shootings the collegiate times website was not accessible. If I understand the situation correctly, their off campus host had some issues which made the site unavailable to a large number of people outside Va Tech and Va in general. How important is it to have your site accessible when more people than normal would &lt;em&gt;like&lt;/em&gt; to look at it? There are advantages with either side but open source an off site hosting don&#039;t provide fix all solutions either.

You also mention losing your site if CP goes out of business which is some what true. You will &quot;lose&quot; your active site but should have backups of everything you have done, and based on some recent examples (Temple moving from CP to Wordpress) they do work. With an open source system you don&#039;t get, and most people forget to think about making or implementing a professional long term backup solution. These systems cost money and having done several consulting jobs for video and data backup systems I can tell you the external USB2.0/FW400/FW800 hard drives have a high failure rate when used in an environment like is needed for a media outlet which will rely on digital media storage and retrieval going forward.

CP isn&#039;t for everyone, but for some it &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; be a good solution. I find most recent discussions on a college newspaper CMS solution focus on CP problems and gloss over what it really takes to provide a solid CMS. I like your idea for a consortium as the more options available, the better - in my opinion.

&lt;strong&gt;Editor&#039;s note:&lt;/strong&gt; Minor formatting changes were made to this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to come off as a CP apologist but really think it is easy to bash CP with out looking at the full picture. So if you don&#8217;t mind Dan, I would like to present a view from a school who has hosted their own and used Campus Engine, New Digital Group and College Publisher:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the school news industry, College Publisher, now branded as the College Media Network, desperately needs a competitor.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would say, and so do you, they have plenty of competition. Want to pay for your CMS, use Ellington or get your own instance of Polopoly or other &#8220;pay for use&#8221; CMS systems. Need a free version? As you point out:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;my work involves researching mature platforms already in the ecosystem, such as Wordpress, Drupal, and Django,&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>These are all free systems. Paid, free or even with the semi-free/semi-pay model of CP there IS competition. The problem as I see it, there isn&#8217;t a one do-it-all-like-media-wants-it system. Perhaps that is the problem &#8211; we are looking for a swiss army knife CMS but given the rapid changes in technology and media in two years we will need a new one! Maybe the answer isn&#8217;t an all-in-one system?</p>
<blockquote><p>Most, too, are held captive to this partnership because there isn’t the motivation, manpower, or vision for more innovative options.<br />
Should any independent student newspaper want in a part of this?  No.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, not exactly. Let&#8217;s be honest, what is right for you or the ODE may not be right for any other student newspaper. More importantly, it may be right for the ODE or some other college newspaper right now but what about after some one like you (you come across as a well informed, active and excited student) graduates? Graduating seniors is a problem for more than just football programs! Lose a great programmer or just interested student and your site can stagnate in one year as technology changes around you.</p>
<p>Even you pointed out:</p>
<blockquote><p>It offers under-staffed and under-funded newsrooms an easy way to get their content online at a price that can’t be beat.</p></blockquote>
<p>And there is the attraction for many college newspapers and some students who aren&#8217;t more forward thinking like you. Even for those who are more forward thinking, things like budget cuts (ours for example was cut 25% this year) can be limiting (and I&#8217;m not talking ad revenue alone). Problem we experienced wasn&#8217;t convincing students to do more, it was convincing administrators and student government why a college newspaper <em>should</em> be more than just a printed product.</p>
<p>You do make a very good point:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;student newspapers need to allocate resources internally to running and developing their own platform.  This can seem somewhat paradoxical, adding to your staff when you’re losing more and more revenue, but it is a necessity for survival.  The future isn’t all that bleak, we’re just in a time of transition.</p></blockquote>
<p>Give an Amen to that! We do need to be allocating more resources, no question, but this presents some interesting economic issues as well. How do college newspapers fund such investments? College newspapers largely rely on either free or cheap labor. Minimum wage increases, rising food, transportation and general living costs are all making it more difficult to recruit, retain and compete with the other bigger money backed media outlets (who seem to like college students because they aren&#8217;t afraid of the term blog or podcast) not to mention typical college jobs like hostess or barrista. This problem requires more than a CMS for a solution such as re-tooling of internship programs, training programs, pay adjustments, finding new revenue opportunities, using student citizen journalism and just trying new things. A problem which was neither created nor can be solved by CP, Drupal or any other competitor.</p>
<p>You go on to mention:</p>
<blockquote><p>Part of the innovation that has to happen, I would like to add, is how you manage, display, and distribute your content online.  For student newspapers, the solution isn’t College Publisher.  It’s too restrictive, poorly developed, and proprietary, locking innovative students to a platform that limits creativity.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are some rather innovative and creative things which the CP4.0 system <em>does </em>offer. I would not say it limits creativity, rather it is the students you have on staff who know what to do with the tools that limits your creativity more than CP4.0. The Daily Pennsylvanian has done some very creative stuff in the LAMP environment, which is open source. The Daily Tar Heel has also figured out an interesting work around for blogs, granted done via WordPress but the 4.0 system and the students figured out how to &#8220;fit&#8221; it in. More importantly, the creativity of <em>any </em>system is likely to be more limited by the people you have on staff who know how to use and program the features, than the system itself.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; page load times are atrocious because of far too much Javascript, and if they go out of business, your website goes down.  The answer, instead, is open source.</p></blockquote>
<p>Page load times certainly can be an issue with any system. The Javascript implementation in one system might be slower where another is it faster so that is something to be aware of which ever system you choose. Open source though has nothing to do with &#8220;fixing&#8221; any Javascript issue. Network bottle necks also can affect your traffic/page load times. If I were to host arbiteronline on our internal server our load times would be very slow due to the bottle neck in our old campus building. The University won&#8217;t host it on their servers and moving the site off campus has money and its own bottle neck issues. Case in point, Va. Tech. Shortly after the shootings the collegiate times website was not accessible. If I understand the situation correctly, their off campus host had some issues which made the site unavailable to a large number of people outside Va Tech and Va in general. How important is it to have your site accessible when more people than normal would <em>like</em> to look at it? There are advantages with either side but open source an off site hosting don&#8217;t provide fix all solutions either.</p>
<p>You also mention losing your site if CP goes out of business which is some what true. You will &#8220;lose&#8221; your active site but should have backups of everything you have done, and based on some recent examples (Temple moving from CP to Wordpress) they do work. With an open source system you don&#8217;t get, and most people forget to think about making or implementing a professional long term backup solution. These systems cost money and having done several consulting jobs for video and data backup systems I can tell you the external USB2.0/FW400/FW800 hard drives have a high failure rate when used in an environment like is needed for a media outlet which will rely on digital media storage and retrieval going forward.</p>
<p>CP isn&#8217;t for everyone, but for some it <em>might</em> be a good solution. I find most recent discussions on a college newspaper CMS solution focus on CP problems and gloss over what it really takes to provide a solid CMS. I like your idea for a consortium as the more options available, the better &#8211; in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Bachhuber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Bachhuber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Greg!  I have heard of the project, although my impression from the Knight grant application was that it was more focused on mobile.  This article seems to imply it&#039;s more of a CMS that tries to do everything.  I would be interested to see how far along they&#039;ve gotten with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Greg!  I have heard of the project, although my impression from the Knight grant application was that it was more focused on mobile.  This article seems to imply it&#8217;s more of a CMS that tries to do everything.  I would be interested to see how far along they&#8217;ve gotten with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Linch</title>
		<link>http://www.danielbachhuber.com/2008/08/09/one-case-against-college-publisher/comment-page-1/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Linch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a great idea. Have you seen this project?

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/may/15/daily-bruin-receives-online-development-grant/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/may/15/daily-bruin-receives-online-development-grant/&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a great idea. Have you seen this project?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/may/15/daily-bruin-receives-online-development-grant/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/2008/may/15/daily-bruin-receives-online-development-grant/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Murley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Murley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get in touch with me and I&#039;ll tell you some stories. :-)</description>
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